Democratic Jitters

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It’s time to state the obvious: Beating Donald Trump must be the main objective in the 2020 election. While we all may have our personal favorites, and should proudly vote for that person in the primary, when it comes to November 3, whoever is the Democratic nominee deserves all of our support.

No matter who it is.

I know this upsets a lot of people. Ideological purity tests are running rampant all over social media. “But wait, he’s too far to the left.” “Hold on. We need to excite the base and increase the turnout. Only a real progressive can do that.” I’ve heard and seen them all. Everyone’s nerves are frayed. We know what the King is doing to our democracy, and none of us want to see what another four years of Trump will do to our beloved country.

Right now, the bane of all of the hand-wringing is the front-runner status of Senator Bernie Sanders. The latest polls show him with a small lead over the rest of the Democratic field. Former Vice-President Joe Biden is seemingly losing support in the African-American community, a group he’s been counting on since he announced his candidacy several months ago. Some have said he’s in a free for all.

I’m not quite going down that road yet, but clearly, it’s been a tough few weeks for Biden. We’ll see how he does today in New Hampshire, but it seems he’s already conceded it’s not going to go well for him there, his trip tonight to South Carolina being a pretty good indicator. But remember, Super Tuesday is less than a month away, on March 3. 11 primaries and caucuses happen on that day. If Biden underperforms, we could be seeing an early exit from the campaign. But, if he does well, it will surely keep him in the game.

But Biden has lost traction. For the longest time, he was the clear front-runner; for many, he was the logical choice. He had strong support from the African-American community. He was seen as a safe choice for moderate democrats and independents, as well as disaffected ‘never Trumpers’ and actual 2016 Trump voters. So, if Biden isn’t going to be the guy, where do these people go?

It’s highly doubtful they’ll go with progressive wingers Sanders or Senator Elizabeth Warren, who also has seen her stock go down in recent weeks, by the way. Perhaps Pete Buttigieg or Senator Amy Klobuchar will provide a haven for the moderates. But even that isn’t a given at this point.

But it’s Sanders who gives so many in the Democratic Party such a headache. I saw strategist James Carville blow a gasket over the weekend, warning the Democrats not to go ‘crazy.’ It was a shot across the bow at Sanders and his left-wing insurgent platform. Carville was hired to rescue Senator Michael Bennet’s struggling campaign, so he has a stake in how this goes. But, he’s not the only one warning of impending doom if Sanders wins the nomination.

I want to give a few thoughts on Sanders if I may. First of all, I like the Senator from Vermont. Around 2010 or so, I began listening to progressive talk show host Thom Hartman on satellite radio. Every Friday, Sanders would come on his show and take calls from the audience. Hartman called the segment, “Brunch with Bernie.”

I always looked forward to it. The one thing that always stood out for me was Sanders’ authenticity and honesty. He answered every question thoughtfully, and if he didn’t know the answer, he’d immediately say so. And let’s say that the Bernie Sanders I heard in 2010, is the same Sanders I hear today. The guy never wavers in his belief system. He’s a self-described Democratic socialist and proud of it.

That said, I realize the dismay of many in the Party. It’s not just his platform that worries a lot of people. He comes across as an angry old man. He scares many when he talks about a “political revolution” because of the troubled history of socialistic countries like Cuba and Venezuela. Just the word socialism is enough to drive people crazy.

It also appears that Sanders is the choice of none other than King Trump himself. Are you ready for “Crazy Bernie,” “Sanders the Commie,” or “Socialist Sanders?” Because, if it’s Bernie, you can damn well be sure that’s what we’re going to see. Remember, “Crooked Hillary?” You haven’t seen anything yet. Most Republicans relish the thought of running against Sanders, and unfortunately, they might be correct in their zeal.

Sanders does have a dedicated group of followers, much like Trump, albeit substantially younger for sure. But will that be enough? Can he mobilize the Democratic base, as well as help down-ballot Senate and Congressional candidates?

And here is where I’m going to hold my nose and say something I never thought possible: Mike Bloomberg might win the nomination. Ouch. That one hurts because a few months ago, I wrote a post urging Bloomberg not to run. My friend Jim over at Borden’s Blather disagreed with my assessment at the time. He never explained his reasoning to me, but he didn’t have to. Jim, I think you may have been onto something.

Please understand, though, this is not even close to being an endorsement of Bloomberg of any kind. Let’s call this an opening of the mind, a realization that the election of 2020 is unlike any we’ve seen.

In my previous ‘Bloomberg’ post, I complained that America didn’t need another billionaire buying his way into the competition, let alone going up against another billionaire. You know what? I still feel that way. I still think allowing a guy with more money than God to buy his way in is just plain wrong. And I hope one day that Congress will get their act together and fix this travesty.

But, the rules are the rules, and Bloomberg has every right to do what he’s doing. In fact, the last graph I saw showed him spending upwards of $300 million so far, nearly double the other Democratic billionaire running, Tom Steyer. And it’s working folks. He’s bolting up the national polls, even taking African-American support from Biden along the way.

Bloomberg’s standing in the polls, however, comes with a caveat. He hasn’t been on the debate stage. He hasn’t had to face any of the other Democratic contenders yet. If things keep going the way they’re going, though, that’s going to change. And, I expect, so will the scrutiny of his campaign. Can you imagine Bernie Sanders and Bloomberg on the same stage together? The cable news networks must be salivating at the possibility.

There are certainly pitfalls to Bloomberg being the nominee, but there are upsides as well. One upside already apparent is the fact that the current president of the United States is unnerved by the former Mayor of New York. The ads currently bombing the airwaves are as cutting an indictment to Trump as I’ve seen so far. And to his credit, Bloomberg has stated that he will continue to use his fortune to defeat him, regardless of whether he wins the nomination or not.

So where do the moderates and never Trumpers turn to if Biden continues to sink? Well, besides Klobuchar and Buttigieg, Bloomberg is now a distinct possibility. I may not like it, but at this point, I do not care. Because beating the King—beating Trump, is a necessity. I do have a favorite in this competition. And it certainly isn’t Mike Bloomberg. But because our democracy is hanging by a thread and becoming more perilous by the moment, I’m open to him. How can I not be? Better yet, How can we not be?

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  1. Thanks Jeff for putting it so well. I’m watching Bloomberg and waiting to see how things go.

    In the end, I’ll cast my vote for our Democratic nominee, whoever he or she is. That’s our ONLY chance to defeat Donald Trump.

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  2. I’m coming to the same conclusion B.L. Today I went to read his positions on taxation, health care, guns, education, the environment and the like on his site. Few billionaires will tax capital gains of over a million dollars like ordinary income. And raise tax rates on wealthy Americans and impose a wealth surtax. He mirrors the majority of Americans on gun rights and environmental protection. He has given billions to causes I support. Is he a billionaire? Sure. But he made his own fortune himself. He wasn’t born with a golden spoon up his ass. Does he have faults? Sure he does. He will be constantly attacked for Stop and Frisk while he was Mayor. He company gives its employees the best benefits money can buy including 36 months maternity leave. Still, over twenty years some15 or so women have indicated they were harassed and complained of the frat boy atmosphere at the firm. Many of the claims were dismissed in court or settled wit h NDAs. Bloomberg admits to telling off color jokes but compared to our President he is a lightweight. Many of these accusations were leveled while he was Mayor, a time he turned over control of the company to professional management. The plaintiffs accused him anyway – even though he wasn’t present for twelve years. Finally, he is not a good debater. He is less than charismatic. Still, with warts and all, he may be the best choice we have to beat Trump. The future of our democracy is literally at stake. Best from Florida.

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    1. Thanks my friend, for filling in some details on the Mayor. I contemplated doing a whole post dedicated to that. But, I’ll hold off for now. I’m going to wait and see how this thing plays out. He’s intriguing, that’s for sure. I do know the orange moron is worried about him. His ads are spot-on. Biting and to the point. And, very true. I love how he answered the question about America deciding between two billionaires….”Who’s the other one?” That, is how we beat this illegitimate president. In his face, kick him where it hurts. Not illegal, mind you…just cut-throat politics. Bloomberg has a shot. No doubt about it.

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      1. I agree. Better still when Agent Orange referred to him as Mini Mike, Bloomberg just laughed. “you mean Dyed Blond Don with the spray tan?!” That, unfortunately, is what it will take to beat this guy. In the end I will vote for anyone, including Prince Harry, who gets the nomination. Best from Florida.

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    1. That’s good to hear Neil. Most of the folks on this platform feel that way. But there are some we must convince. In the end, beating him is the only option. Period.

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  3. I will definitely vote for whoever is the nominee. I initially turned my nose up at Bloomberg, but maybe he’s what it’s going to take to get rid of Trump. He certainly gets under his skin, that’s for sure. I like Sanders, but I’m afraid the socialist label is going to scare people off even though he has a fan base. I also like Buttigieg and Klobuchar but wonder if they have what it takes to defeat Darth Trump. Because you know, he’s going to pull every rotten dirty trick in the book to get re-elected, and as we now know, the entire GOP will back him every step of the way.

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    1. Good to hear Kim! Yes, it’s not going to be easy to defeat someone who will lie and cheat his way to victory any way he can. Just heard that they’re planning on a $1 billion disinformation blitz for 2020. A guy like Bloomberg will come in handy, regardless if he’s the nominee or not. We can’t have our hands tied behind our backs this year. All hands MUST be on deck! You’re right about Sanders. Like I wrote in my post, I like the guy. But I’m well aware how he’ll be painted by Trump and his cronies. It worries the hell out of me.

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  4. I do not claim to understand your politics as well as UK politics, but I can say that having a a far-left candidate for the Democrats will lose you the November election, just a Jeremy Corbyn was the reason for UK’s Labour Party losing ours. Long time Labour supporter wanted worker representation, but saw Corbyn’s communistic thinking as a threat to the British way of life. What you need is a moderate who will appeal to right wing voters. Bernice Sanders is a good man, but he is not the weapon that you need right now!

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    1. You have a good sense of our politics. Don’t sell yourself short. I’m well aware of the Corbyn comparisons. And, to a certain degree, they are correct ones. I have a few moderate friends who are already calling him a ‘commie.’ It’s only going to get worse, I fear.

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  5. A very good assessment of the situation, Jeff. Sigh. I have grave concerns about Bloomberg, one being that I think the last thing we need in the Oval Office is another rich, old, white man who is unlikely to put the needs of the 99% above the wants of the 1%, and the other being his past racist policies, ie, “stop and frisk”. But, like you, if he is the nominee, I will throw my support behind him and vote for him, for he has two things Trump doesn’t have: sanity and the fact that he is not evil to the core. You’ve stated the case well … unfortunately, we don’t have a John F Kennedy or a Barack Obama in the mix this year to inspire the masses.

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    1. We sure don’t Jill. So you and I, and many others will hold our noses and vote for him, if he’s the guy. It’s still early of course. And from what I hear from our friend Toritto in his response above, Bloomberg is not a good debater. At some point, he’ll have to make his case with Amy, Mayor Pete, Bernie, Warren and Biden all on the same stage. We’ll see how he does. Like you said, though, all would be a thousand times better than King Trump. That we can all agree on!

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      1. I went back to look at Torrito’s comment, for I hadn’t read it first time ’round, and he does make good points. I also, in the process, came across Sound Eagle’s video and LOVED it! You’ll see it on my blog sometime soon, no doubt! First thing that’s made me smile all night! Yep … more and more I’m seeing Trump as a Hitler and I truly believe another four years of him will bring about the complete destruction of the Constitution and its premises. We cannot let that happen!

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  6. Jeff, Dems need to be aware that Trump will do every thing in his power to divide Democrats. He follows a Machiavellian code – divide and conquer. That is how he won last time and he will do it again. So, Dems need to get on board with a candidate at some point, even if the person is their third, fourth or fifth choice. Think of what will continue to happen if Trump wins again – a further emboldened king, denigrated environment, insufficient action on climate change, retrenching from global leadership, further tax cuts for the oligarchy and cuts to needed programs, further restrictions on woman’s rights, increased blurring of the lines between church and state, and further degradation of freedom of the press. Keith

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    1. As usual, you’ve said it well Keith. All true. The primary process is painful and divisive. Hell, who can forget Hillary and Obama going at it? Nerves were frayed and people were downright mean to one another. But, in the end, we came together and Hillary campaigned hard for Obama. That’s what we’re going to need when this is all over with. The disinformation campaign has already began with the Trump crowd. It’s only going to get worse. The sooner we get through this, the sooner we can all get behind the nominee.

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      1. Hello Jeff. I am not trying to rehash old history, but I do want to understand why people say that Hillary worked hard to elect Obama yet Bernie sabotaged Hillary when the facts show a different story. Hillary refused to give up her campaign in the primary until June 7, 2008, long after she couldn’t win. After the final primary election, the District of Columbia’s on June 14, Sanders met with Clinton and congratulated her on her successful campaign. Not much difference in the timeline. Hillary held 12 events for Obama, yet Sanders held 39 for Hillary. Fewer of Sanders supporters voted for tRump than the many more of Hillary supporters that voted for McCain. Yet the anger and bile against Sanders because he did not concede earlier and the fake claim he did not campaign enough for Hillary is a poison in the DNC that still threatens the Democrats to this day. While everyone including Bernie is saying publicly we must rally around the nominee no matter who Hillary is giving interviews on national TV saying she won’t support Bernie if he is the nominee. Yet she is the respected honorable one in this? This constant tearing down of someone who right now looks like he could win is in sharp contrast to the “hold our nose and vote for him anyway” talk about Bloomberg who was a republican when convenient, an independant when it suited him, and a Democrat to run now. I don’t like the double standard employed on these two. Hugs

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      2. I hear you Scottie. Tension is real on both sides of this issue. I just can’t go there, though. I’m sorry, the big fish to fry is Trump. I will never waiver on that.
        I see this stuff on Twitter all the time and it’s not good for us. I wish we could move on from it. Sadly, I see the same things happening now as in 2016. There’s a real risk to helping the idiot get reelected. If it’s Bernie, I will send him money and I will help in any way I can. I like the guy, as I stated in my post. I do worry about his electability. I think my concern is genuine.
        By the way, I do not think it’s a good thing for Hillary to be bashing Bernie at this point. She should leave well enough alone.
        When I see people on our side bashing each other, instead of Trump, it really does drive me crazy. But, I get it. It’s human nature. I do hope we can all come together when this thing is over Scottie. Primary season is not for the faint of heart, that’s for sure.
        Have a great day sir…I do appreciate your passion on this.

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  7. Reblogged this on Filosofa's Word and commented:
    As always, our friend Jeff over at On the Fence Voters is spot-on in his assessment of the current Democratic candidates and their campaigns. He has also drawn a scenario about Michael Bloomberg that, while it doesn’t please me, I certainly cannot argue otherwise. The goal that we must not lose sight of is to topple the bully-in-chief, for another four years under Trump, who has been handed the keys to the kingdom, is unthinkable. Good work, Jeff!

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  8. Hello Jeff. I am not sure how many of your readers are aware tRump was recorded saying that the one person he feared in 2016 was Sanders and even after the primary was over if Hillary had picked him tRump said he would have had a lot harder time winning the presidency. Any comparison of Bernie to Jeremy Corbyn is seriously flawed. Corbyn’s defeat and large losses had much more to do with Brexit and his refusal to provide a clear stance on it until after the election, than his left wing politics in general. As for Bloomberg if he is the nominee the Democrats lose. Another video has surfaced of him using every racial trope about black people. No amount of advertising is going to overcome him on several videos insulting and demeaning black people and being proud of it. What he is claiming now about stop and frisk and trying to reduce it, is simply a lie and not backed up by facts. tRump will play them on a loop non-stop. As for people voting for a Social Democrat, in the general the myth is easy to dispel and already polls show half the people in the country not only would vote for a Social Democrat, most of the young people prefer it. Bernie has already worked to show he is about the Denmark / nordic countries model of government which is capitalism tempered by restrains to work for the good of the people. I would remind everyone that four years ago the ideas that Bernie promoted were mocked as pie in the sky that can not happen and unrealistic. Now those policies are the backbone of the candidates running in one form or another. The reason the Democratic party shifted its stance on those issues is that the people want them. They don’t care what you call it, they want relief from how hard it is to just survive and they want some ease and comfort in their lives. They are tired of worrying all the time about how to afford food and housing, and fearing getting ill which they have no medical coverage for and can not afford. tRump won because he claimed he would make it better, not keep it the same. Having said all this I want you to know I do not support Bernie in the primary, my best choice is Warren. However I watch, listen, and read politics all day. I have different sources from different perspectives. I think the days of the old ways being comforting won’t win anymore. For Democrats they have not won in many years. Obama governed from the center but ran as a progressive and voting for a black man was a progressive act. But in 2016 the Democrats again put forth a center moderate candidate and the Republicans put forth a populous president. We seen how that turned out. It will again. The people need and want change. Hugs

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    1. You make good points Scottie, as you usually do. One thing I’ll say about Bernie..I wish he’d explain his brand of Social Democracy better. I’ve heard him occasionally talk about the Denmark/Sweden garden variety socialism, but he’s going to have to do more of that, I feel. There’s so much disinformation out there. Fear is what they will sell. Fear of change. Fear of BIG government etc…Hey, you know I’m all in if Bernie gets the nomination. I too, favor Warren by the way. I hope she can somehow resurrect her campaign. But, I don’t know if it’s possible.
      I’m not a Bloomberg fan Scottie. But, I just can’t discount him. Who can discount someone with that kind of wealth who’s ready to spend whatever it takes to take Trump down? I think if we do, we do so at our own peril. Let’s see how he does on Super Tuesday. I think we will see much clearer picture of where we are after that. But, it may still be muddy waters ahead. I just hope we can all get behind the Democratic candidate. That’s my single most important issue going forward.

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      1. Hello Jeff. I agree there will be a lot of fear mongering about the word socialism. Most older people connect it with the USSR and with Cuba. In fact I recently watched a clip of Chris Matthews melting down over Bernie claiming the was going to make the country Cuba and Venezuela. However even the people on the set with him pushed back. Chris Hayes really defended Bernie earning him Matthews disgust and ire. Younger people do not have those same cold war memories and the word has a totally different meaning for them. I agree we have to see how this shakes out. My fear is a contested convention. I can see the Democrats getting no clear winner and say with Bernie in a delegate lead. How many will try to take the nomination from him and how will that split the party leaving no chance to win the general. Already it is clear that the DNC is doing everything they can to rob Bernie of any momentum, and corporate media including MSNBC is working hard to not give him any credit. To the point of claiming Klobuchar’s third place win far more important than Bernie’s first place win. It is turning off people. One woman in New Hampshire told the interviewer from MSNBC she voted for Bernie simply because of the way the media was treating him so badly. Hugs

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      2. Yeah, I saw that Matthews meltdown. I think it’s time for Chris to call it a career! But, that’s for another day.
        You’re right Scottie, young people aren’t as familiar as the older folks as it pertains to socialism. And it’s like you said..they’re sick and tired of low wages, high tuition and rent etc..I get why they’ve latched on to Bernie. We’ve got some tough days ahead my friend. I fear the brokered convention as well. Let’s face it, most of us are all freaked out at what another 4 years of Trump will do to our country. That, more than anything is driving all the uncertainty and nervousness. You know what else though? It’s not just Bernie. Warren isn’t exactly getting red carpet treatment either. Again, it’s the corporatization of everything, including the media. Those two are the ones talking about the need to reign them in. No wonder they can’t get a fair shot!

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      3. Hello Jeff. Well said, you are correct. Some days it seems like we are fighting for the “soul” of the nation, who we want to be. I do hope the better angels of our nature win out. Hugs

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    2. Hi Scottie,
      On paper Ms Warren may be the most palatable candidate, progressive enough to capture the younger voters and moderate for the rest of the country. However the Corporate Democrats who run the DNC are not enamored about her wealth tax for millionaires. And she recently flip flopped on Medicare for all which hurt her in the polls. Conniving with DNC Clinton insiders to sabotage Bernie as being a sexist totally backfired, no brownie points for her.
      Buttigieg is the establishment golden boy as of now, since Biden cracked under pressure and kept telling his supporters to vote for someone else or vote for Trump! Politics is a strange world.

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      1. Hello 1EarthUnited . The several gay themed forum sites I go to treat Former Mayor Pete as a cult icon. They fawn over everything he does and they attack anyone who even mildly disagrees. They treat him as the next coming golden boy and do not even care about his policies. It is 100% identity politics. He is gay and that is enough for them. The amount of money they sell out for him is stunning. Hugs

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    3. Hi Jeff (Brookingslib), Greg (OhioRealist) and Scottie,

      My long-term concern is that even if the far left such as those leaning towards democratic socialism were to ascend to the White House at the next election, how much fundamental change is indeed going to be feasible and sustainable when both the GOP and the Corporate Democrats who run the DNC will still be around, and also when the political arena can be very fickle and has been undergoing such wild swings from Bush to Obama to Trump.

      We human beings as a species has been so flawed in many ways that I would prefer to see an extra-terrestrial and benevolent leader with superior intellect, sagacity and wisdom in the White House.

      Beam Trump away, Scottie!

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      1. Hello SoundEagle. I agree with you on the problem of the corporate Democrats and the DNC dragging their feet to prevent the party moving to the left. But they can not stop the Overton window from shifting as it already has. People may not realize this but the Democratic party has moved right since 1980. The things the progressives are talking about were standards for the party before that. One reason the Democrats have lost in state governments is we turned from doing for the people, supporting unions, and helping the little guy and started working for the upper middle class and higher incomes. The Democratic party became Republican lite over the decades. Hugs

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      2. I share your concern my friend. Unless we can flip the Senate, not much else is going to change. It would be nice to send Mitch McConnell packing, wouldn’t it? But, he’s so powerful with so much money at his disposal, it’s not likely. Sigh!

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      3. @ Scottie
        I totally agree that the Overton window has shift hard right since Ronald Reagan became president. Democrats felt the need to remain relevant sadly abandoned their mission to fight for the ppl, and started following the money.
        Even our beloved Obama said in a 2012 interview that “The truth of the matter is that my economic policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican,”
        Our Democratic party has indeed transformed into Republican lite as you’ve observed, and working stiffs cast off by the wayside, steadily losing support from blacks and minorities over the years.
        Republican party has devolved into some form of fascist oligarchy, with a pseudo king at the helm. *Facepalm*
        And ur right about Pete, identity politics doesn’t work for the majority, b/c it skews reality and his cult-like following only marginalize his message. It seems Bernie and Pete need to calm their supporters without losing the passion.

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  9. Geez, doesn’t it strike you as a bit disingenuous that the establishment representing both parties is actively promoting billionaires as the only viable leaders of the country? Hmmm, I’m sure we the ppl are thrilled to be screwed over for the nth time. What a farce.

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  10. I’m a big fan of Elizabeth Warren Jeff but I’m not sure she can recapture enough hearts and minds now to get a woman elected. I hate to say it but Bloomberg who I said I wouldn’t vote for (If I lived there) may now have to be my choice because of his willingness to lay taxes on the wealthy when they didn’t need that break they got before. Eroding the National Debt and trying to rebuild the job market plus building links with European Allies who are no longer sure whether they are allies or not in American eyes.
    Hugs

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    1. Yep, I hear you David. He will be a formidable candidate on Super Tuesday. I love Liz Warren too. Yes, she’s progressive. But she also believes in the markets…markets with rules of the road to abide by. I think that’s a great combo. Unfortunately, her path is narrowing pretty quick. I hope she can survive. Most likely not though.

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  11. Interesting reading. Your post and all the comments. Super Tuesday will reveal a lot, methinks.

    IMO, none of the candidates fit the “ideal,” but every one of them is far and away better than the monster that currently inhabits the White House. Of course I have a couple of favorites — and will be disappointed if they get bumped. Nonetheless, we’ve all agreed on the end goal and that’s what we must fight for!

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  12. My brother was with friends when they were stopped and frisked (during Bloomberg’s mayorality). And speaking of being a king and not respecting democracy, Bloomberg (with help of the city council) lifted the two-term limit that voters voted for in a referendum…twice…so that he could get a third term as mayor. I still sometimes cringe at some of the things that happened while he was mayor. Goodness me, I really hope he does not become the nominee. I would never vote for Trump in a million years, but if Bloomberg becomes the nominee, I’ll need to do some real soul-searching and seriously consider voting third party myself. I live in New York, so the Democratic candidate will almost certainly win regardless of who it is, so I can vote third party without feeling like I’m handing the election to Trump.

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    1. I totally agree with Brendan, Bloomberg was a real piece of work, did not endear himself with minorities. He ran the city like an oligarch, the budget was outta control and property taxes jumped. In that sense he was not too different than Trump, totally enriched himself on the ppls dime. Billionaires do what’s best for themselves, that’s how they remain billionaires!

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      1. I saw him try to respond to a reporters question about the whole stop and frisk fiasco. He did not do a good job. It’s going to be his turn in the frying pan soon enough. We’ll see how he does when he’s being fired at from all sides. Perhaps his time at or near the top will be nothing but a blip on the radar

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    2. I hear you Brendan. I will have to hold my nose to do it…But I will do it, if necessary. I too, hope it doesn’t come to that. He would be light years better than Trump…but still, the whole idea that billionaires can buy their way in drives me crazy. We really are in perilous times. I fear for our democracy. I really do.

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  13. Jeff,

    My ideal scenario would be to have Bloomberg put his large ego aside and fund Amy Klobuchar’s campaign. She has her flaws too, but I think given time and money, she could win and unite this country. I think she could excite and unite voters and bring others along with her.
    Back in the real world, I agree with you about Bloomberg, and I agree with Robert Reich’s comments in the video Jill placed on her blog. Funny you used the phrase “hold your nose and vote” because that was the agreed phrase that came up in a discussion I had with a woman seated next to me at my gym.
    Unfortunately, this is the year for pragmatism above all else. If Black Caucus people can overlook Bloomberg’s stop and frisk awfulness and endorse him, as three just did, that’s significant to me.

    In addition, here are two further points to ponder as I hope Bernie lovers will ultimately put the fate of our democracy above their personal devotion: a new Gallup poll demonstrating the high number of Americans who say they won’t vote for for a socialist; and a New York Times article citing worries of some members of Congress who won in red states that if Bernie heads the ticket, we could lose the House.

    I take no pleasure in this. But now that the Justice Dept is firmly under trump’s control and the Federal Reserve may soon follow, we are moving beyond “king” to even darker nomenclature.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/12/us/politics/democrats-fear-bernie-sanders.amp.html

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    1. Sigh. We have certainly entered the abyss Annie. Bloomberg has a lot of explaining to do. How he handles all of it will determine his fate. You’re right, if African-Americans can get over it, I certainly can.
      In a strange way, Bernie and Trump are somewhat alike in that their supporters are rabidly behind them. Definitely the Bernie Bros need to behave themselves a bit better. And Bernie needs to speak out more about being civil to people, especially in the social media sphere. We cannot become anything like the Trump cult.
      I think Amy has a shot at it. We must see how she performs when more diverse states start to decide who they want. It may be a tad late for her, but we shall see.
      I really do fear a brokered convention, unfortunately. I just don’t know if any of the candidates will have enough delegates. That, in my view, will not help us. I hope I’m wrong on that one!

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    2. Hi Annie, Ms Klobuchar is sensible, fiscally responsible and a moderate Democrat. Unfortunately she doesn’t stand out in this radicalized political climate. Her support is underwhelming and her campaign is running out of money. She also doesn’t have the Democratic machine behind her like Mayor Pete has.
      So far Bernie’s in the lead, but not for long. The DNC is plotting with Bloomberg to represent elite interests. Plan is to springboard his candidacy with mega ads and unlimited money, bypassing early caucuses and individual donor requirements, install him as a frontrunner leading up to Super Tuesday.
      If Dems plan to shove this scheme down our throats, I’m not so sure all supporters are willing to hold their nose and swallow hard. If the party has to force their own voters to vote against Trump, then we’re back to 2016. *Sigh*

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      1. Maddie—I really think it’s time to leave the conspiracy theories to the right. The New Hampshire win for Bernie was tight because the preponderance of voters wanted someone more moderate; the DNC had nothing to do with that. (And today’s moderate Democrats are clearly left of center.) The DNC has nothing to do with the Culinary Workers of America’s opposition to Bernie in Nevada because they’re nervous about Medicare for All. The sad fact is that most Americans are not yet ready for a Democratic Socialist. That may change in your lifetime—it’s clear we need major overhauls to our dreadfully inequitable economic. system—but we’re not there yet.
        And who knows? Nixon led the breakthrough with China and saw the beginnings of environmental protection. Maybe a self-made billionaire will surprise us and seek to emulate FDR.

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      2. The sad fact is that most Americans are not yet ready for a Democratic Socialist.

        I couldn’t agree more!!! And until those that DO support Bernie recognize that and return to reality, we may have a very bad 2020 outcome.

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      3. Annie, I hope to heaven you’re right, but i won’t be holding my breathe that Bloomberg will do right by the people.
        There’s plenty of evidence showing the DNC’s hand in manipulating vote counts and reassigning delegates away from Bernie, so it’s an actual conspiracy and no longer theory.
        Jeff mentioned about a possible brokered convention led by Democratic party heads due to lack of clear majority of the delegates’ votes.
        I believe this scenario is being staged as we speak, thus super-delegate vote trading will be re-established/ “brokered”, and the outcome conveniently determined by DNC Chair head Tom Perez. Bloomberg will be the newly appointed (installed) nominee for the Democratic party. Deja vu 2016 anyone?
        I pray I’m wrong, but all the shenanigans caught on tape & party memos from recent caucuses point to this very outcome. There’s too much at stake not to call out the DNC for fixing the Primaries and bypassing the will of the ppl.
        This will not end well, worse case scenario Trump will retain the throne for another 4 years…. or longer.

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  14. I hope you’re wrong that Perez is rigging this thing for Bloomberg. That would be an abomination, in my view. We need to let this play out. Bloomberg can spend every last penny of his fortune to try and win, but if he doesn’t resonate on the trail, or do well in debates, he won’t get it done.
    The whole idea of billionaires doing this makes me sick to my stomach. Buckly v. Valejo in 1976 SCOTUS decision allowed it to happen. After Trump is sent packing, we’re going to have to do everything we can to change and overhaul our campaign finance system. I think most Americans would agree. It’s getting Congress to act…Republicans specifically…That’s going to be hard. Real hard.

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      1. Geez Scottie, thanks for this! I’ve never heard of this group. But this is EXACTLY what we need to fix what ails our disintegrating democracy. It seems like a totally grassroots effort, which makes it even more enticing. It’s somewhat similar to the group representus.org, which I referenced in my corruption post a week ago. But this might be even better because they’re working on a Constitutional Amendment for free and fair elections. I think that’s what it’s going to take Scottie. Because politicians in D.C. are up to their eyebrows in money and corruption. It’s up to US, the people. And our Constitution allows us to do it through calling a convention. I think I read where they’re up to 5 states so far. Hey, it’s a start! Thank again Scottie. I can feel a post coming about this!

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  15. Hi Jeff. I appreciate once again your thoughtful commentary on the state of the upcoming election. I agree 100% that the main objective is to defeat Trump, and I think Bloomberg is one of the better options for doing so. I won’t repeat my comments here, but I did leave a somewhat lengthy comment at Jill’s page just a few moments ago at https://jilldennison.com/2020/02/13/robert-reichs-view-on-bloomberg/ I’d love to hear your thoughts, and if you find the time to watch Bloomberg’s commencement speech, what you think of it.

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    1. Thanks Jim. I will definitely check it out and get back to you. This election is too important to disregard anyone. Never been more obvious than what’s happened in just 1 week since his acquittal. It’s only going to get worse!

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